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    Ignition Issue

    Hey Volare forum,

    New Volare owner here and I have a question, hopefully this is in the right thread. So I was in the process of switching out my ignition in a 1980 Volare I purchased with a new one and when I tried to start itís not turning over. Sounds like the solenoid clicks and then nothing, lose all power to the car and Iíve been looking everywhere for any kind of hint or tricks that would get it started as it started prior to putting in the new ignition cylinder. Wanted to replace it because Iíd like to have a key to start it. Also I donít know if it makes a difference or not but it has Fast EFI and MSD system on it. Any help is appreciated really want it up and running again.

    Thanks in advance

    Newbie with a 1980 Volare

    Also if thereís something in a thread I missed when searching please point my in the right direction.

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    A few years ago I drove mine from AZ where I live back to MI for the holidays. The weekend after I got back to AZ it wouldn't start. After it wouldn't start I was getting weird stuff like run behavior when in ACC, ACC behavior in off. The 40 year old ignition switch had spronged internally. I got a new switch at Napa as I consider them to be a little above some of the others with parts quality. That switch lasted less than a year. The one after that lasted about a year. I kept one of the dead ones for the wiring harness to make a toggle/toggle/push to start, but haven't found my round tuit.

    The point is the new switches are China junk.

    I used to have a continuity matrix where you unplug the harness at the base of the steering column and test all the positions of the switch. That is where I would start so you will know that the switch is doing what it says on the label. I'll look for my info, and you can search around for it as well. Once we know the switch is correct, then we have to see if the signals are making it to the start relay and so on.

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    Sounds like a bad battery connection. Double check the terminals and other connections. A lot of times, a loose (or high resistance/ poor connection) at the battery terminal will give you one CLICK (and usually a spark at the battery post) and everything will go dead.

    Might not be the problem but that's the first place I'd check and then go from there.
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    Good thinking. I guess we should go back and think of everything that was touched after it was working correctly, as part of the ignition switch swap.

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    Did you end up solving this?

    I found my notes on the ignition system.

    Key position off gives No Connection from the #12 red wire to anything.

    Key position Acc gives that 12R connected to 12Bk

    Key position Run gives 12R connected to 12Bk and 12 DBl

    Key position Start gives 18Bk to gnd, 12R to 12Br, and 12R to 12Y

    Those were all hand written notes for which I don't now recall the original source. Probably from the badly scanned images from an unknown factory wiring diagram that seems to match well with my 76 Volare. FWIW.

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